We speak with ex-president of SFU Students of Caribbean and African Ancestry (SOCA) Giovanni Hosang, and Community coordinator Bal Dhillion from Byrne Creek Community School. As well as SFU professor at the Beedie School of Business and co-chair of the Hogan’s Alley Society’s board of directions, Dr. June Francis, about the word ‘ally’, what it means and why the way we practice it within black communities needs to change.